tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2754002607205877740.post6043885743784008027..comments2023-10-03T10:52:05.047+02:00Comments on Undercover Kofer: Problems in Emunah? You mean to say: I want sex!Undercover Koferhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00194328471722983693noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2754002607205877740.post-54325481008637208122009-11-08T22:17:00.834+01:002009-11-08T22:17:00.834+01:00SB: Yes, it is a load of bull, but perhaps a good ...SB: Yes, it is a load of bull, but perhaps a good reframing technique. Externalize, declare war on this menuval and you will feel good about yourself (being all yetzer hatov) and have no mercy on that which stands in the way of that good. The christians took it a little further to create a satan that opposes God. Whateva...<br /><br />I used to love Rabbi Twersky's readings, nice ideas and vertelach. But since I don't believe in that anymore, I can only handle the self-help stuff somewhat.Undercover Koferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00194328471722983693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2754002607205877740.post-91821166894922136832009-11-08T01:31:03.439+01:002009-11-08T01:31:03.439+01:00the yetzer hara being held responsible for anythin...the yetzer hara being held responsible for anything is the biggest load of ____ ever. Yes, we all have "good" and "bad" inclinations, but here's the big secret: It's you! It's all you! If you need to picture your inner little bad guy as a little devil or as an action figure, and your inner little good guy as an angel or an opposing action figure, and you want to picture them duking it out for control of your head, then rock on with your visual imaginings, but any blame on yetzer anything is BS. Hilarious, hilarious bs. And I tend to like Rav Twerski's books (the rehab guy from PA, right? there are a lot of Twerskis running around, out there.). I have some _____-a-day (smile?) and something that's on the parsha in a crate somewhere. Nice, light psych with a side of learning; self-improvement-type stuff, from my dad (who totally means well, even if I don't always agree with him).s(b.)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08633383652906692253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2754002607205877740.post-53835091594945492009-11-04T16:40:16.213+01:002009-11-04T16:40:16.213+01:00I am also jealous! :)I am also jealous! :)Undercover Koferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00194328471722983693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2754002607205877740.post-46758917658141931402009-11-04T14:55:59.004+01:002009-11-04T14:55:59.004+01:00LOLOLOL. Love it. Can't tell you how many time...LOLOLOL. Love it. Can't tell you how many times I read Mesilas Yesharim, Akiva Tatz, Lawrence Keleman, Shulchan Aruch, Tanach...and I also learned some Alei Shur in seminary. Did it help? No, because it's bullshit. <br />But yes, it is quite nice doing what I want to do on Shabbos; sounds to me like the author's a wee bit jealous ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2754002607205877740.post-42132907132299443532009-11-04T00:42:07.274+01:002009-11-04T00:42:07.274+01:00They simply do not want to be inconvenienced by th...<i>They simply do not want to be inconvenienced by the restrictions of Torah.</i><br /><br />I agree that his argument is ridiculous, but it's nothing new; this is how they've dismissed people who disagree with them for over two hundred years.<br /><br /><i>There has not been a true apikores for a long time. (WTF?) </i><br /><br />It's the same argument the Lubavitcher Rebbe used - today's Jews are like someone who has been brought up among strangers; he can't be held accountable b/c he was never exposed to "the truth". To them, a genuine apikores is one who actually knew the truth, then rejected it. If you reject Judaism, it's b/c you never really embraced it. I hear the same argument form Christians all the time - there's no such thing as an "ex-Christian", b/c if you accept Jesus as your savior, it changes you to a point at which you never <i>would</i> reject him.<br /><br />I've actually been certified an apikores by an MO rabbi. It's one of the things of which I'm proudest! Also, I recently came across the Rambam's list of fourteen transgressions that will cause one to lose one's portion in the world to come; turns out I'm also a kofer and a min!Jeff Eygeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11967707883565162538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2754002607205877740.post-26506363798564075132009-11-03T19:34:19.953+01:002009-11-03T19:34:19.953+01:00Hi Kisarita,
My point is that I don't think i...Hi Kisarita,<br /><br />My point is that I don't think it has anything to do with age, more with 'faith over science'. His values are such that emunah completely rules his mind. so no matter how good someone can be in an academic field, as soon as the two clash, he will choose the non-sense.<br /><br />UKUndercover Koferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00194328471722983693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2754002607205877740.post-58891992063738029082009-11-03T09:58:55.777+01:002009-11-03T09:58:55.777+01:00Twersky's response is so unworthy of a profess...Twersky's response is so unworthy of a professional therapist, even a frum one, that I wonder whether he has hit an age related decline.kisaritahttp://www.kisarita.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2754002607205877740.post-21826384209077386552009-11-03T06:56:03.569+01:002009-11-03T06:56:03.569+01:00". . . he would realize that the greatest mi...". . . he would realize that the greatest minds in Judaism were at least as intelligent as he is, and they considered all the questions that are occurring to him"<br /><br />Actually some of the greatest minds in Judaism were Apikorsim through and through. If he means the greatest Halakhic minds, then the question is how did they resolve the doubts. They might be great Halakhic minds, but their ability to deal with meta-questions might not be up to their Halakhic ability. <br /><br />Ichabod ChrainAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2754002607205877740.post-79923314920211867022009-11-03T06:13:13.795+01:002009-11-03T06:13:13.795+01:00UK and G*3....excellently put and precisely why I&...UK and G*3....excellently put and precisely why I'm OTD as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2754002607205877740.post-31713061288520761712009-11-03T00:05:39.099+01:002009-11-03T00:05:39.099+01:00The "yetzer hora" seems to always be ri...The "yetzer hora" seems to always be right on issues related to the cosmos and rational.Alternative Genesishttp://alternativegenesis.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2754002607205877740.post-65420983667656660992009-11-02T23:15:18.861+01:002009-11-02T23:15:18.861+01:00Its a briliant defense of faith, one that cannot b...Its a briliant defense of faith, one that cannot be countered. If you question, it is becuase you are a hedonistic cretin who has given in to his yetzer hara and wants the "freedom" to follow every whim. What can you answer to that? Every argument is automatically deligitimized, becuase clearly you are "bribed" and so your reasoning is biased and not to be trusted. <br /><br />Other fun stuff: argument from authority, and the anthropmorphization of the yertzer hara.G*3https://www.blogger.com/profile/06104739087560005056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2754002607205877740.post-43617678783417779252009-11-02T18:31:47.217+01:002009-11-02T18:31:47.217+01:00Excellent post.Excellent post.OTDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12284266882043971891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2754002607205877740.post-88917463282955805652009-11-02T13:37:28.775+01:002009-11-02T13:37:28.775+01:00What I love more than anything else is the blame g...What I love more than anything else is the blame game. After someone goes "otd," everyone in the community blames someone or something else (i.e. he had a bad 3rd grade science teacher who taught him evolution, or he hung out with the talkers in shul). It seems this rabbi has preemptively started the blaming.Moshehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15260513452232484700noreply@blogger.com